Ok, let’s try this: Sie sprechen Deutsch?
His own research has concluded there are five foundations, or systems, that people use to construct their morality.
These foundations can be compared to five colours on a palette. Liberals tend to rely only on two, while conservatives tend to use all five.
The first two, favored by liberals are:
Harm: whether someone is harmed or harm is reduced.
Reciprocity: whether something is fair and treats people fairly and justly.
The rest, which only conservatives give weight to, include:
In-group: whether something betrays the group.
Hierarchy: whether something is respectful of authority and superiors.
Purity: whether or not something is disgusting.
In a sense, liberals are color blind to conservative concerns because they tend to paint problems in terms of only the first two daubs on the palette: whether things decrease harm and increase justice, fairness or autonomy.
Conversely, because conservatives evaluate issues in all five colors, they tend to put less emphasis on the first two.
“It’s as though there are five wavelengths and liberals only perceive two of them,” says Prof. Haidt, who is writing a book on morality called The Righteous Mind: Why Good People are Divided by Politics and Religion.
The above article will seem strangely off base for the first part of this post — but bear with me:
The conversation always sounds something like this:
Comment: More and more people are leaving our church. The numbers are remaining stable as inflow is roughly matching outflow but so few people last here. It seems we have become a place for new believers to come to Christ and then leave for other churches — or long term believers who have had it with the bricks and mortar church to stop over as they leave for the, “Emerging church.” All of them report the same problem: They are sick of the legalism, moralizing, shame based control and judgment, they believe there is nothing remaining here for them and are leaving to find a deep and personal spirituality and a relationship with Jesus. Why can’t we do something about this?
Response: Well, you know, here at First ‘Whatever’ Church we are definitely a community of grace but we have always had trouble with our small groups. It seems we just have not found the right small group pastor who can really connect with the needs of the people here but, when we do, you are going to see our church just explode as people stay here and make it their church home.
Say WHAT?!?!?!?!?
If I’ve heard it once, I’ve heard it a thousand times. It’s like the conversation is being carried on in two different languages — yet everyone imagines that they hear clearly. It’s not like the above absurdist conversation is even news to anyone outside of the ivory towers of die-hard-fundamentalism, but it doesn’t seem to be changing either. Why?
A quick perusal of Emerging/Emergent church blogs suggests one possibility — perhaps the hearts of the bricks and mortar church leadership are simply so blinded by evil they can’t see the damage being done? It’s more then possible that applies to a few — but I doubt it covers the majority. I know too many full tilt lovers of Jesus who also can’t seem to think outside of the above box.
Others have simply suggested that it’s just a changing of the guard and we should fan the flames of it happening — let the institutional Church die. Again, at some level that could have truth in it. Clearly some denominational structures desperately need to die for there is just nothing left of Jesus in them — but that’s hardly the majority either. As ugly as it often is, the institutional Church is NEEDED to continue the conveyance of foundational ideas forward to the next generation.
However, possibly for the first time in history, we are dealing with an astounding monoculture of institutional church spanning nearly all denominations (Yes, including Roman Catholic and the Protestant Cults) that many see as so far off that they doubt it can convey much of anything useful to the next generation. The result has been the largest transnational exodus from the church ever recorded (other then the historical country limited example of France — Thank-you Jesuits) when one factors in both percentage and speed of departure. If it is going to communicate, then it seriously needs a revamping… Problem is, Bricks and Mortar/Institutional Church is widely regarded as disinterested in even listening anymore…
The article above suggests a different possibility: Perhaps it’s a language barrier. Perhaps the distinction that the above author is applying to liberal/conservative lines also applies to Bricks and Mortar/Institutional Church divisions from the Emerging/Emergent Church. If so, perhaps there is a road map for some sort of conversation there — if that’s the only problem…
Much of the Emerging/Emergent Church is profoundly pragmatic in nature. They are concerned with issues of social justice, incensed about the abuse of the poor and the violation of the rights of those who can not defend themselves. They care little or not at all about authority, superiors or whether or not anyone feels that their little fiefdom is offended. They are remarkably similar to the liberal designation — though it is without a doubt that the Emerging/Emergent Church is really quite orthodox in theological position and probably a fair bit more educated in such.
The Bricks and Mortar/Institutional Church is profoundly concerned with group order, authority, the issue of sin/offense and it gives only some acknowledgment of social justice or the pain of those who endure such. While, like the Conservative designated above, they do acknowledge all five points, they differ in how little the social issues seem to be on the agenda except in so called mainline churches (i.e., United Church) that really do not fit the definition of orthodox at all.
It’s not an exact parallel but the resemblances are striking. The trick is going to be somehow managing to make the translation:
Can the damage of shame based control and the abuse of religious power be framed in terms of respect of authority?
Can a judgment and fear based Gospel ever be painted in terms that would actually be understood by the Bricks and Mortar/Institutional Church as disgusting?
Can the neglect of the (oh so sinful) broken and wounded ever be framed as the betrayal of the in-group?
The above three points don’t seem impossible — but they would require a remarkable increase in Scriptural knowledge, a reclamation of ability to personally hear the voice of God, some profound transitions in theology by the Bricks and Mortar/Institutional Church and a global information effort by the Emerging/Emergent Church to drown out modern reconstitutions of the Moral Majority.
In the fourth point lies the problem: While the theology is being tackled (to only name one of many) by Bob George, the increase in knowledge is being addressed by Brennan Manning and the ability to hear the voice of God is being tackled by Rev. Brad Jersak, the Emerging/Emergent Church simply isn’t organized. The phenomenon is happening — but no one speaks for it, is leading it or seems to even care about taking the job. In part, the decentralized nature of it is both WHY it’s happening — and why it’s silent.
Apparently, that’s the job of the internet for it seems to be the only place where the Emerging/Emergent Church even seems to bother speaking… But, is the Bricks and Mortar/Institutional Church even represented there? Is there a large enough population in the Bricks and Mortar church that can even understand a blog-roll generated Google page-ranking as an equivalency to a peer review or the comment section as a credible form of intellectual debate? Is that why it appears that no one is listening?
Is THAT cultural divide practically insurmountable?






August 14th, 2008 at 7:27 am
As much as certain Mennonite churches have their faults, I can’t say the same for MCC and all their relief and social justice programs.
Here is an interesting – if rather heavy for the average person – article about the emerging church http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2007/february/11.35.html
August 14th, 2008 at 7:32 am
http://townhall.com/columnists/FrankPastore/2007/07/22/whyalqaedasupportstheemergentchurch
August 15th, 2008 at 12:41 am
Hi Kathy,
Yes, the MCC is a notable exception — and there are others — but the general evangelical invasion into this area has not in any way matched on the whole.
The second article does not work though. I’ll leave it there until you can correct the URL…
Cal
August 15th, 2008 at 5:52 am
sorry about that link – here it is:
http://townhall.com/columnists/FrankPastore/2007/07/22/whyalqaedasupportstheemergentchurch
August 15th, 2008 at 11:24 am
Hi Kathy,
Now there’s nothing there??? Perhaps not even TownHall could tolerate it???
August 15th, 2008 at 12:14 pm
Cal – since the link didn’t work, I’ve cut and pasted it below in case you want to read it. You can delete it afterwards. – Kathy
Sunday, July 22, 2007
Frank Pastore :: Townhall.com Columnist
Why Al Qaeda Supports the Emergent Church
by Frank Pastore
The greatest threat to world peace is radical Islam. If not for the United States, millions more would be suffering under the tyranny of sharia law all over the world. Our Muslim enemies know post-Christian Europe has already lost the will to fight. Africa, Asia, and South America seem to be already lost. Russia, China, and India would rather trade than fight…for now. And the United Nations continues to be irrelevant.
Only the United States, and more specifically, only the conservative, evangelical Christians of America are who stand between radical Islam and their quest for global domination.
If the world is to be saved from Muslim conquest, it will be America who does it. And if America is to be saved, only conservatism can do it. And if conservatism is to be saved, it will be those Bible-believing patriots who do it–those conservative, evangelical Christians who are the bedrock of the American way of life.
Why? Because only Christianity has the intellectual and spiritual horsepower to defeat radical Islam and prevent the world from returning to the darkness of the 7th century. After all, the story of the birth and growth of Western Civilization is pretty much the story of the birth and growth of Christianity. The divide between East and West today, fundamentally, is the divide between Islam and Christianity. Christians and Muslims know this, it’s the secularists who don’t get it–or at least won’t admit it.
That’s why anything that helps to further separate the West from its Biblical roots ultimately weakens the resolve of the West to fight. Anything that helps the ACLU to further de-Christianize America, to further silence the Christian voice like the current hate-crimes legislation or the fairness doctrine, and to further weaken the Church and devalue the Bible as the religious left has done for decades, are things that empower our enemies and weaken our allies.
A post-Christian, post-modern, secular-socialist America will be no match for a radical Islam fueled by petro-dollars and threatening the use of nuclear weapons.
But an America where the church is strong, resolute, and courageous? That’s a different thing altogether.
Which is why al Qaeda supports the emergent church.
The emergent church is an ally in the war against radical Islam–al Qaeda’s ally. Not in the sense they are supplying bullets and bombs to Osama, of course, but in the sense they are weakening our conviction to fight.
If those in the emergent “we’re-a-missional-not-an-institutional” church had their way, American church buildings would be just like European church buildings – empty. And the church, the people themselves, would be so intellectually, morally, emotionally, and spiritually lost, confused and uncertain, that they would be incapable of doing hardly anything more than inviting their Muslim oppressors in for a cappuccino and a good conversation about the sociology of knowledge, the absurdity of propositional truth, and the misplaced certitude of the Muslim metanarrative. All the while, no doubt, nodding in agreement that America probably deserved to die and mumbling something about carbon footprints.
The term “emergent church” refers to a loose association of people who share common values and attitudes toward, well, everything. It’s Christianity for postmoderns who don’t like truth, knowledge, science, authority, doctrine, institutions, or religion. They claim absolute or objective truth is unknowable, that the only “truth” that can be known is rooted in communities of shared subjective experience–the infamous “it’s my truth” of relativism.
And if nothing is objectively true, if no text has a meaning independent of the reader, then the truth claims in the Bible are no more authoritative than the funny papers. Hence, there’s no emphasis on core beliefs, essential doctrines, statements of faith or the institutions built to defend and propagate them–especially the institutional church and its Bible colleges and seminaries.
Bottom line, it’s feelings over thoughts, the heart over the head, experience over truth, deeds over creeds, narratives over propositions, the corporate over the individualistic, being inclusive rather than exclusive, with none of that offensive “in versus out” language, such as those who are “saved” and those who are “not saved,” or even the most divisive of all referents–“Christian” and “non-Christian.”
The emergent church and its allies on the religious left are to Christianity what termites are to wood. They devour it from the inside out, little bit by little bit, and you don’t notice it until it’s too late–unless you look for the droppings.
They’re leaving lots of droppings if you only have eyes to see.
The emergent church has rejected the “linear” and “modern” categories of true/false, good/evil, and right/wrong, and they recoil at the notion of applying these terms to Christianity or any other faith tradition–even radical Islam. To believe Christianity is true, good, and right is divisive, offensive, and well, rude and anti-conversational.
It’s time to call these people out from the shadows and expose them to the light of public scrutiny.
Their unwillingness to distinguish truth from error, right from wrong, and good from evil leave them intellectually immobilized to resist the encroachment of false teaching and heresy, and even incapable of knowing the good guys from the bad guys in the war for the free world.
The whole point of terrorism is to destroy the will of the enemy to fight.
Whose side are they on, anyway?
What Yogi Berra said about baseball is true of this war against radical Islam: “Half this game is 90% mental.”
Yogi knew this. Osama knows this. I wonder if the “emergents” do?
August 15th, 2008 at 12:22 pm
Another emergent church leader is Rob Bell. Hopefully this link works to his NOOMA DVDs, of which we have two – Flame & Noise – but I’d love to get them all, esp. this one on Sunday:
http://www.nooma.com/Shopping/ProductDetails.aspx?ProductID=277
August 15th, 2008 at 6:05 pm
The three points in the last blue box uses phrasology like ‘damage of shame based control and the abuse of religious power; judgement of fear based Gospel…disgusting; and neglect of the broken and wounded’. Hard to understand how the institutional church could possibly be NEEDED, as stated above. Seems more like a place to be avoided
August 16th, 2008 at 12:32 pm
Hi Cheryl,
Ok, I’m not sure if I was as clear as I needed to be.
What I am trying to say with the above (Blue) comment is that those are the translations that need to be made so Fundamentalism can finally grasp that what they have been up to is a problem.
There are a lot out there who agree with you about just dumping the institutional church. Historically, it’s role has been to move orthodoxy forward while the rest of the church (Emerging???) was to foster spirituality (Like in the Roman Catholic orders of days gone by.)
It would be nice if it could again take that role…
Cal
August 16th, 2008 at 12:52 pm
Hi Kathy,
Wow, that guy’s logic is absolutely impeccable…
If he had done his homework, he’d figure out he is actually referring to a very narrow slice — yes, properly called, “Emergent,” and not, “Emerging,” — that represents maybe 3-5% of the whole emerging church exodus — which currently represents around 53% of the church in North America. (So, we’re talking about less then 2.5% of believers — it’s doubtful Islamic Fundamentalism even knows they exist.)
He’d also figure out that fundamentalism needs an enemy (Usually of other fundamentalists) to validate its own existence. A tiny subset of believers that do believe little or nothing is hardly grounds for them to launch a jihad…
It’s an argument technique known as, “Godwinning,”: “Yes, you may have a point but God, the obvious evil of the Nazi empire/the Islamofaschists, is on my side so I win.”
Probably the most extreme emergent church leader/member is still perfectly capable of standing up and saying that wack-jobs killing innocent people by using jet aircraft as lawn darts need to be combated. (Some {GASP} may disagree that invading a petty little Iraqi dictator’s fiefdom is going to accomplish such though…)
Cal